See official apology of the United State to Hawaii https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-107/pdf/STATUTE-107-Pg1510.pdf which includes these words: "apologizes to Native Hawaiians on behalf of the people of the United States for the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii on January 17, 1893 with the participation of agents and citizens of the United States, and the deprivation of the rights of Native Hawaiians to self-determination;" Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 7:09 PM scott via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
On 4/30/2022 12:19 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
This reads a lot like dsl wars between ilecs and clecs in the late 90s and early 2ks.
compounded by a 100+ year old military occupation
Hee is definitely acting in an old school (meaning 60s/70s) Hawaii manner... ;)
Also, for the others here...on the occupation. I haven't read this particular article, but I'm sure it covers the basics. The main question is 'was it a nation when the US gov't overthrew Hawaii or was it a group of individual kingdoms?' Many get that wrong and that's what matters to international courts on the current issue of Hawaiian sovereignty. For sure, it was a nation due to a forced treaty agreement with Kaumuali`i. The rest of the individual island kingdoms were conquered with violence by Kamehameha who then created a lahui..a nation. Therefore, it is a military occupation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overthrow_of_the_Hawaiian_Kingdom
scott
well, that does it for the history lesson. ;-)