At 12:16 AM 4/10/98 +0000, Michael Shields wrote:
In article <3.0.3.32.19980409083628.03cebbe8@mailhost.ip-plus.net>, philip bridge <bridge@ip-plus.net> wrote:
That is of course laudible. But the point has to be made that AS8584 is in Israel. In an environment when a small ISP in a small country can cause a lot of damage to the global Internet, a way has to be found to efficiently propogate this knowledge far and wide.
I don't understand this point. Would you have been happier if they were a small ISP in the United States? How about India? Finland? Why does it matter that AS8584 is in Israel?
No, no, no. The point I was trying to make is that doing a tutorial on the IRR toolset at a Nanog meeting will not propogate the knowledge about how to prevent these meltdowns with those tools far enough and wide enough. If you do not like the example of Israel, how about Switzerland, which is even smaller and happens to be where I live and work. How many multihomed, BGP-speaking ISPs do you think fly from Switzerland to Nanog meetings? The same goes for RIPE meetings or APNIC meetings. The techniques to prevent these meltdowns *have* to be easily implementable and well understood by the vast majority of ISPs, both big and small.
-- Shields, CrossLink.
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