the problem i have with google smtp is in the reverse direction drop condition = ${if isip4{$sender_host_address}} message = blocked because $sender_host_address is \ in blacklist at $dnslist_domain: $dnslist_text !dnslists = list.dnswl.org dnslists = dialups.mail-abuse.org \ : rbl-plus.mail-abuse.org \ : qil.mail-abuse.com logwrite = REJECT because $sender_host_address listed in $dnslist_domain i.e. i do dns blacklists proceeded by a white list. and when goog adds a new smtp outbound, users say folk get bounces, i have to chase them down and then go through dnswl.org's process. major pita and mail does get lost. randy