Something that would be interesting to see (particularly if someone has eyes in Comcast’s network) is to see how customers in areas where L4S trials are happening faired in comparison to others.

Part of the narrative of what we are seeing in the CDN market i.e., some not necessarily being prepared for a streaming era.


On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 9:03 AM <joel@joelesler.net> wrote:
Also, how far have we come that 65 MILLION streams were active at the same time and we’re like “omg, so bad!”

5 years ago, never possible.

That being said.  I watched it on my iPad with no problems whatsoever.  Not even one hiccup.  Meanwhile I had X open in a side by side and I saw people complaining about it.


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My experience over a home internet fiber connection wasn’t great (like everyone else’s) but my son was watching it over his mobile device without any issues.
 
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What were your educated observations, preferably with supporting data?
 
If it was capacity issues, they learned a hard lesson that you should have other CDNs available to shed traffic over to if yours hits a problem that can't be quickly solved in real time. 
 
If it was server/software/livestream technical , then /shrug. Fix those.  :) 
 
 
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 1:28 PM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
Armchair quarterbacking...

Discussions I've seen from operators on Facebook shows some that had PNIs that worked just fine, while others with PNIs and cache boxes didn't fare so well. Some with just cache boxes were fine, while others were not.

What were your educated observations, preferably with supporting data?

Did we have a problem with congestion where the cache boxes phones home to, and this they just fell over?

AWS used to be the data source of last resort. Did anyone notice congestion going from AWS to cache boxes?




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