and I get how that could be. We had a design. Gave the prints to the contractors. Someone internally verified the contractors built what was on the prints. A year or two goes by and some laterals ended up costing more because handholes on the prints were never built. Our locator goes to a handhole to send his signal and the handhole doesn't exist or finds a handhole in a spot not on the prints. Always fun managing OSP.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com


From: "William Herrin" <bill@herrin.us>
To: "Tom Beecher" <beecher@beecher.cc>
Cc: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>, "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:33:25 PM
Subject: Re: Pulling of Network Maps

On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:01 AM Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:
> My experience with maps over the last decade tells me that even most vendors don't actually know where they are. :)

So true. And not that young a problem. I leased some dark fiber more
than a decade ago. They sent an unexpectedly expensive build proposal
to connect my building. I asked: "Why are you trenching to the manhole
down the street instead of the one right outside?" They asked, "what
manhole?" Long story short, they dispatched a guy who popped the
cover, pumped the water out of the vault and confirmed that they had a
location they didn't know about.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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