But it is reality, it's just not your reality, Mike.   Brandon's ISP can provide that service.

So should there be a more granular definition of speeds mandated based on population density, last mile tech, etc?

I was in the camp that you didn't need higher bandwidth than you'd normally find - I was happy on my 50/10 plan. Then my ISP upgraded me to a 300/50 or thereabouts and it was a night and day difference in getting things done. 

Just like your example of average utilization being in the single megabits per second, my average utilization is near zero. But when I need to move files I can burst to speeds that aren't embarrassing in 2021.

Higher bandwidth is both welcome and necessary. It doesn't have to be sustained throughout the contract to be required. The only question is how feasible it is, and I suspect it's quite feasible for larger players. 




Dan

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On Fri, May 28, 2021, 22:33 Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
That's not based in any kind of reality.



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100/100 minimum for sure.

In our small neck of the woods, we are currently doing 250/250 for $45 and 1000/1000 for $60 no data caps.

We have lost some grants on rural builds because "someone" in the census block claims they provide broadband.. Not hard to put an AP up on a tower and hit the current definition's upload speed.

I get a chuckle when the providers tell the customer what they "need"...  


Brandon Price
Senior Network Engineer
City of Sherwood, Sherwood Broadband



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On Thu, 27 May 2021, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE wrote:
> At least 100/100.
>
> We don’t like selling slower than 10g anymore, that’s what I’d start everyone at if I could.


At $50/month or less?

Maximize number of households of all demographic groups.