Hi Alexander I'm not sure what you're trying to say You asked why the Cisco website tool won't give you a 7505 as a config option I replied that it's EOL - with a quote from Cisco website All I see in the HTML table you sent is that the 7507(or 7513) is better than a 7505 - is there a non-obvious point I missed ? -- Regards Rafi ## On 2004-04-25 06:33 -0700 Alexander Hagen typed: AH> AH> Specifications AH> AH> AH> Feature AH> AH> Cisco 7505 AH> AH> Cisco 7507 AH> AH> Cisco 7513 AH> AH> AH> Fixed Ports AH> AH> None AH> AH> Same as Cisco 7505 AH> AH> Same as Cisco 7505 AH> AH> AH> Expansion Slots AH> AH> 5 AH> AH> 7 AH> AH> 13 AH> AH> AH> WAN Interface Range AH> AH> DS0 to OC-12 AH> AH> Same as Cisco 7505 AH> AH> Same as Cisco 7505 AH> AH> AH> Processor AH> AH> MIPS RISC Processor AH> AH> Same as Cisco 7505 AH> AH> Same as Cisco 7505 AH> AH> AH> Forwarding Rate AH> AH> Up to 1.1 Mpps AH> AH> Up to 2.2 Mpps AH> AH> Up to 2.2 Mpps AH> AH> AH> Backplane Capacity AH> AH> 1 Gbps AH> AH> 2 Gbps AH> AH> 2 Gbps AH> AH> AH> Flash PCMCIA Memory AH> AH> 16MB (expandable to 128MB) AH> AH> Same as Cisco 7505 AH> AH> Same as Cisco 7505 AH> AH> AH> System DRAM Memory AH> AH> 32MB (expandable to 1GB) AH> AH> Same as Cisco 7505 AH> AH> Same as Cisco 7505 AH> AH> AH> Minimum Cisco IOS Release AH> AH> 11.3 AH> AH> Same as Cisco 7505 AH> AH> Same as Cisco 7505 AH> AH> AH> Internal Power Supply AH> AH> AC or DC AH> AH> AC, dual AC/DC, or dual DC AH> AH> AC, dual AC/DC, or dual DC AH> AH> AH> Redundant Power Supply Support AH> AH> No AH> AH> Yes AH> AH> Yes AH> AH> AH> Chassis Size AH> AH> 6 RU AH> AH> 13 RU AH> AH> 20 RU AH> AH> AH> Rack Mountable AH> AH> Yes, up to 6 per rack AH> AH> Yes, up to 3 per rack AH> AH> Yes, up to 2 per rack AH> AH> AH> Dimensions (HxWxD) AH> AH> 10.5 x 17.5 x 17 in. AH> AH> 19.25 x 17.5 x 25 in. AH> AH> 33.75 x 17.5 x 22 in. AH> AH> AH> AH> AH> AH> Alexander Hagen AH> AH> Etheric Networks Incorporated, A California Corporation AH> AH> 527 Sixth Street No 371261 AH> AH> Montara CA 94037 AH> AH> Main Line: (650)-728-3375 AH> AH> Direct Line: (650) 728-3086 AH> AH> Cell: (650) 740-0650 (Does not work at our office in Montara) AH> AH> Home: (Emgcy or weekends) 650-728-5820 AH> AH> fax: (650) 240-1750 AH> AH> http://www.etheric.net AH> AH> AH> AH> -----Original Message----- AH> From: Rafi Sadowsky [mailto:rafi-nanog@meron.openu.ac.il] AH> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 12:25 PM AH> To: Alexander Hagen AH> Cc: sthaug@nethelp.no; nanog@merit.edu AH> Subject: RE: Cisco Router best for full BGP on a sub 5K bidget 7500 7200 AH> orother vendor ? AH> AH> AH> AH> AH> AH> AH> AH> ## On 2004-04-25 06:06 -0700 Alexander Hagen typed: AH> AH> AH> AH> AH> AH> AH> AH> It is a great box. But I need BGP. I notice Cisco does not support AH> 7505 AH> AH> AH> with Software Advisor but does 7507 whats the deal with that ? AH> AH> AH> AH> That would probably be that the 7505 is EOL(End Of Life) AH> AH> AH> AH> <http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps359/prod_eol_notice091 AH> 86a00801dcba7.html> AH> AH> AH> AH> Cisco SystemsR announces the end of life of the CiscoR 7505 Series AH> Router AH> AH> chassis. Note: This end-of-life announcement does not affect the Cisco AH> AH> 7507 and 7513 chassis. The Cisco 7507 and 7513 will remain orderable. AH> The AH> AH> last day to order the Cisco 7505 is June 30, 2004. Customers will AH> continue AH> AH> to receive support from the Cisco Technical Assistance Center (TAC) AH> until AH> AH> June 30, 2009. Table 1 describes the end-of-life milestones, AH> definitions, AH> AH> and dates for the Cisco 7505. Table 2 lists the part numbers for AH> affected AH> AH> products AH> AH> AH> AH> <snipped> AH> AH> AH> AH>