On Jun 17, 2012 7:46 PM, "Vinny Abello" <vinny@abellohome.net> wrote:
On 6/17/2012 10:22 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
On 6/17/12, Joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote: [snip]
resources were delegated to them. future prefix assignments will clearly require that the demonstrate utilization much as they are required to in ipv4.
Sure. But they don't necessarily have to have WHOIS listings up to date in order to successfully demonstrate utilization; it is possible they provide private documentation or utilize the spreadsheet method of demonstrating utilization, without publishing details in WHOIS, and indicate they themselves serve as contact.
The IP address WHOIS database is a system for identifying valid network contacts to report connectivity and operational issues to, and the contact listed in WHOIS for a network does not necessarily have to be an organization capable of identifying an individual user or customer.
WHOIS is not a system for tracing IP addresses down to an individual user level, not with IPv6, not with IPv4. Thanks for clearly stating this, Jimmy. This is largely my point with WHOIS as well, although I may not have expressed it clearly.
Along the same lines, WHOIS is not Geolocation (as poorly as that technology works, frequently because it's partly or mostly built on WHOIS data to begin with). The registered place of business an assignment points to, which may be completely accurate for valid network contacts at a company headquarters, doesn't dictate satellite offices are at the same address, city, state or country which may make up 90% of the use of the entire allocation... just as one example. This is abundant in enterprises.
-Vinny
+1 to Jimmy and Vinny, and going back to the OP. .. This is why the article is poorly formed. Whois evolution and practices are NOT a speedbump for ipv6 deployment. Traceroute is likely more informative than whois. ...or looking at a bgp as path... For both ipv4 and ipv6 You think whois traceability is a problem in ipv6? It is nothing compared to ipv4 CGN traceability challenges.... Which the article also mentions. CB