JA> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:07:30 -0400 JA> From: Joe Abley JA> There's a slight wrinkle with that for people who want to JA> submit mail over SSL. JA> JA> Several graphical, consumer-grade mail clients let you select JA> a port for "outgoing mail (SMTP)" and also have a checkbox JA> for "use a secure connection (SSL)". It gets worse: OE/Outlook offer a "use Secure Password Auth" option, which is _not_ SSL. Although SMTP auth is orthogonal to SSL, they tend to be used together. When Netscape Communicator 4.7 is offered the chance to authenticate, it _insists_ on authenticating. Then certain Eudora versions have quirks IIRC... Eddy -- EverQuick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita _________________________________________________________________ DO NOT send mail to the following addresses : blacklist@brics.com -or- alfra@intc.net -or- curbjmp@intc.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked.