In message <23235.1469666031@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu writes:
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:21:02 -0700, Dan Hollis said:
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
There isn't even general agreement on whether (or what!) Cloudfare is doing is a problem.
aiding and abetting. at the very least willful negligence.
aiding and abetting of what, *exactly*? You can't accuse somebody of it until (as Barry Shein pointed out) you have a workable definition of what exactly you're talking about. Similarly, "willful negligence" in most places requires you to draw a dotted line between the alleged negligent action, and some claimed damage or loss on your part - of a form that a court can provide a remedy for.
As soon as a transaction takes place, conspiricy to harm <X> by <Y>. If the DoS actually occurs you can add additional charges for the actual actions. This is no different conceptually to hiring a thug to take a baseball bat to a place. You can be charged for consipiricy to commit a crime even if the crime does not occur. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org