On Sep 17, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
Also, you're incorrect on the process. You can definitely get an ASN without IP space.
I find that fascinating. The ARIN template: http://www.arin.net/registration/templates/asn-request.txt states: 12. Indicate all IP address blocks currently in use in your network. You fill in "none" and ARIN has given you an ASN? Under what conditions?
If you have no IP space in use, what do you plan to do with an ASN? It is pretty common to get an ASN from ARIN while using PA IP space, never getting (or requesting) space from ARIN or other RIRs.
Actually, in more than one case, I have been able to fill in "none" on an initial assignment template and still get the ASN. The ASN is a prerequisite to qualifying under the multihoming end-user policy, so, yes, if you are starting from zero and applying as an initial end-user, you can apply for an ASN with "none" as long as you can demonstrate that you have contracts for service with at least two ISPs. You can then use that ASN to apply for IP space under the multi-homed end-user policy. Of course, if you can show existing utilization of PA space, that becomes much easier, because it is easier for ARIN to verify your utilization and requirements, but, with sufficient appropriate documentation, you can apply without existing IP space and get an ASN and an assignment. Owen