This allow me to repeat - don't bother about ORBS, no one serious can use this service because it cause the missing of the important mail -:). Than let's they are doing troubles to those who want this troubles. My policy was always the same - if someone yse ORBS, we never promise to deliver e-mail for him. I guess this policy exists yet. On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Garlic wrote:
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:35:31 -0800 From: Garlic <garlic@garlic.com> To: I Am Not An Isp <patrick@ianai.net> Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS
ORBS does seem to have this policy although it is not on their web site.
I Am Not An Isp wrote:
At 12:18 PM 1/13/00 -0500, Harald Koch wrote:
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, "Sehmel, William C." had to walk into mine and say:
Got this from bugtraq.
Alot of us did. I thought about posting it to nanog, but then I actually researched the issue a bit, and discovered that securityfocus' listerver is *not* in the ORBS database at this time.
Sounds like FUD to me.
patrick@pts/0.ns2/10:40AM# nslookup www.orbs.org Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1
Non-authoritative answer: Name: www.orbs.org Address: 202.36.148.16
Traceroute Output
FROM www.above.net TO 202.36.148.16.
traceroute to 202.36.148.16 (202.36.148.16): 1-30 hops, 38 byte packets 1 gate-96.main.sjc.above.net (207.126.96.189) 1.21/2.28/3.5 (0.612) ms 10/10 pkts (0% loss) 2 core1-main.sjc.above.net (209.133.31.153) * !H * * * * * 2.9/2.9/2.9 (0.0) ms 1/7 pkts (86% loss)
Above.Net really is filtering ORBS. And if ORBS lists people who block them.....
Harald Koch <chk@pobox.com>
TTFN, patrick
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