I was wondering if anybody out there has had any experience with "Packet Shapers," which claim to be able to limit traffic to a particular host, host+port, or host+port+url without dropping packets. They apparently watch traffic flows and keep track of connections, then dink around with TCP window size information to slow traffic down if needed. The one we have been looking at is called "The Packeteer" (http://www.packeteer.com), but I have seen a few others (one of which had a really good picture of a pig in the ad). Do these things work as advertised? Is anybody actively using them inside their networks? I don't know enough down-and-dirty information about TCP to know if this should work, or if it's just a plastic shell filled with snake-oil... Thanks for any information. Email if you like, I will post a summary if people are interested. ------Scott.