On 10/6/2010 5:05 PM, david raistrick wrote:
to be clear, I could give a damn about if we talk about this on nanog or not. (and I agree that outages is the right place to announce outages, and outage-discuss to discuss them).
my point is that facebook has moved beyond being a pure content provider, and (much like, say, google) provide both content AND service. I have dependancies on facebook's (as do many many others who perhaps dont yet hire folks who even know what nanog is but someday will) services. without them, my teams can't work and my employeer loses signiicant figures of revenue per day.
so facebook is very much operationally relevant for my network, and that these mixed content/service providers will be more and more relevant as time goes on and we as a community should figure out how to deal with their transition from pure content to perhaps some day pure service.
My company buys firearms, so I am going to start posting to nanog every time my service providers go down (Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms, Volkmann Custom, and Benelli). Certainly they're a website, but without that website I can't order the firearms which costs me significant figures of revenue per day. Perhaps your company buys widgets of some sort? That is not however a core networking issue. Facebook outages may be important to your company, and I do some business on there as well, but NANOG is not a list where non-bandwidth vendor outages should be reported. (unless you like guns too!) Andrew