Adrian: The key word is "cooperating".  New.net (and its brethren that are being born in technology incubators as we speak) are not "cooperating", they're intentionally "culture-jamming" for their own gain.

-Mat Butler
Speaking for himself, not his company

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Chadd [mailto:adrian@creative.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 2:18 AM
To: Stephen J. Wilcox
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Statements against new.net?

On Wed, Mar 14, 2001, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:

> You dont have to use ARIN/RIPE allocated IPs on your network, you can pick
> your own (non-RFC1918) addresses just dont advertise them, but again what
> good is that to users on my network who wont be able to see the sites.
>
> Look: "Internet" its single, not plural that would be "Internets" there
> are certain uniquenesses which must be maintained if you want all users on
> "The Internet" to receive the same results no matter who's network they
> are on.

Hrm. Somewhere along the line I remember the Internet being defined
as a bunch of networks cooperating in order to exchange information.

When did that change? :-)

I'll be happy when more companies start to see that they canactually
make money by fostering internet growth rather than making money by
abusing internet growth.

Adrian

--
Adrian Chadd            "The fact you can download a 100 megabyte file
<adrian@creative.net.au>  from half way around the world should be viewed
                            as an accident and not a right."
                                        -- Adrian Chadd and Bill Fumerola