On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 jlewis@lewis.org wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Alexei Roudnev wrote:
Hmm, if someone (except masochists and security vendiors) still hosts efnet... I can only send them my condoleences.
I saw sthe same dialogs 6 years ago. Nothing changes.
What about undernet? A customer wants us to help him setup an undernet IRC server. My gut feeling is, hosting IRC servers (especially on the well known networks) is like wearing a "kick me/flood me" sign on your network, and it's probably not going to be worth the pain & pages.
It probably depends how much money is involved and if they are willing to pay for all the network tech's time such server brings in. My own dealings with people wanting to run IRC servers and services is that they may have some fixed amount of money for the server but whatever they are expecting to generate from such irc-related services does not happen and they ran out of money and most end-up having to be canceled for non-pay (usually after first 4 or 6 months) and you end-up having to decide if your company want to sponsor this server for the long term... Some other things that you end-up having to consider if the server is run by the customer what are their policies and how white/black/grey are their admins and people they allow to be operators. Operators way too often end-up being targets of attacks on the servers ... As far as Undernet is probably not as bad as Efnet as attack target, but you'll still see some attacks for sure. -- William Leibzon Elan Networks william@elan.net