Actually, this brings up an interesting point... what can one reasonably expect from an upstream provider to be put in the original service contract?  Who has to pay for the time to resolve issues?  What kinds of issues are normally part of the contract, and what kinds aren't?

-Mat Butler

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Nielsen [mailto:cnielsen@nielsen.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:18 PM
To: Ariel Biener
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: DoS issue, conclusion

On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Ariel Biener wrote:

> 3). Major Tier1 providers are either not represented on this list, or
>     don't care.

not that... it is just that most ISPs dont have large staff to deal with these
types of issues. And maybe, if you were being DoSed, and you offered to pay
for their time, they might answer differently.

Christian