On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
In message <8DA1853CE466B041B104C1CAEE00B3748FA4E8A0@CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net>, John Curran writes:
Umm... How many North American ISP's/datacenters/web hosting firms were aware of the BCP 38 development as it was on-going, and participated in some manner in its review? The IETF is a wonderful organization, but it is not exactly overflowing with representation from the service provider community. Also, given that you really need these practices picked up on a global basis, repeat the above question with "Global" rather than North American...
I'd say enough were aware. :-)
8. Acknowledgments
The North American Network Operators Group (NANOG) [5] group as a whole deserves special credit for openly discussing these issues and actively seeking possible solutions. Also, thanks to Justin Newton [Priori Networks] and Steve Bielagus [IronBridge Networks]. for their comments and contributions.
I think the core group of backbone engineers, and to some degree others at the periphery of the DFZ, understand the issues. And yes, I think it gets back to an education problem on "why you should care". As I mentioned on another list earlier today, let's face it -- this is going to require a large-scale, very public, and probably multi-year education & awareness effort (as if 13+ years isn't enough already!). How long did it take to get some movement on open SMTP relays? You get the idea. Some people are going to have to step and add a few thousand more frequent flier miles and get out to various geographic constituencies, at various events, and start talking about this. And we need a lot more people on board. Nation & international campaigns, etc. And there may even be some stick approaches to accompany the carrot, but some awareness is going to have to happen. Sing it from the mountain tops. - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson fergdawgster(at)gmail.com