On 3/2/06 7:57 AM, "Edward B. DREGER" <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net> wrote:
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:07:33 +0000 From: Michael.Dillon@...
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Is there something inherently wrong with independent organizations deciding where to send their packets?
1. Many a transit seems to think so. 2. Is there an inherent need? 3. Is this DPA+sourceroute cocktail the best method?
What Eddy said and also: The designers of shim6 seem to live in a different network security world than I do. Even assuming that shim6 ever gets deployed, which is pretty close to complete fantasy, the threat of a massive TE botnet being used to control large amounts of Internet traffic is a serious threat to Internet stability. Right now, DDoS attacks from Botnets are bad enough. Think about what happens when they have source routing control. Shim6 is a non-starter. A critical mass of host OS's will not get their software upgraded to support this in the next 5 years - there isn't running code ANYWHERE. Time to stop screwing around. There is a tremendous amount of effort being wasted here arguing against it and even more so in the IETF, where time being wasted on shim6 could be better spent on a new IDR paradigm. Where is the IETF leadership?
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