I think it’s time to take this name-calling, libel-threatening tirade off of Nanog, gentlemen. I can’t see any further relevance in this discussion to Nanog’s mission of operational issues, and you all just burn CPU cycles the rest of us don’t want to give up. Have a nice day.

 -mel beckman

On Sep 19, 2019, at 2:34 AM, Elad Cohen <elad@netstyle.io> wrote:

Mr. Ronald Guilmette

Everything you did and you wrote in this forum until today, including mudslinging and slandering, including thieves and crooks, they are libel for all intents and purposes with everything it implies, and this without to display any proof.

We return and say, in our hands are all the agreements of the purchases that we've purchased properly with our best money.

It is hinted from your tongue-lashing, that you are connected clearly with Spamhaus and ARIN, that have an interest to receive the ranges, following the increase of value of the ranges in the free market and the lack of them.

All of this subject was transferred to our lawyers, due to the mudslinging and slandering and the nicknames you wrote thieves and crooks in this forum, a libel suit against you will be filed with a high amount, of course that all of the written proofs an agreements regarding the legal purchases that we've made will be added to the libel suit.

Copies:
Mr. Bennet Kelley
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg@tristatelogic.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:22 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Elad Cohen
 
In message <d6411136-73d4-9712-5303-2e364bb291c8@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>,
Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote:

>Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>
> > So, if you are looking for a Crime here, i.e. one defined under law,
> > there isn't one.
>
>You don't know how broadly crime of fraud is defined by the current code.
>
>Just injecting false route information may not be a crime.
>
>However, doing so for financial gain maybe a crime of fraud.

I guess that there is something that either you, or perhaps I, are not
understanding here.

Did you mean to suggest that either Mr. Cohen or any of the friendly networks
that he has persuaded to announce routes for him (by paying them to do so)
are doing any of this just for their health?

Financial gain appears to me to be the obvious motivation for all of this.

>False registration for financial gain by deceiving a registrar
>is definitely a crime, regardless of what is registered.
>
>See the actual code:
>
>       https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2015C00507

Allow me to clarify.

In the case if the APNIC region blocks that I have called out, I have -no-
evidence to suggest that there has been any deception or untoward manipulation
of registry information whatsoever.

With respect to the AFRINIC region blocks I have called out, if you have a
relevant citation from the criminal code of the island nation of Mauritius,
I would be most appreciative if you would share that with me.  It may come
in handy at some point.


Regards,
rfg