-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 <VIC-20-MODE> What makes you think that a global network of private networks is a democratic forum? Who's definition of "democratic?" You don't even live in the same democracy as the majority of the users on the net (you are in Canada and not the U.S.A.) Should your definition of democracy override their definition of the same? One of the founding principles of a democracy is the right to private property. Every piece of equipment on this network which is not owned by the various governments is by definition private property. If you want a democratic network, go create a government body to buy all of the equipment and pay for all of the comm. links and then that government body can run their network in whatever form of "democracy" they choose. Until then, the people who own the equipment and directly pay the comm. bills have the right to protect their networks as they see fit. If their customers don't like the way their provider does business they always have the right to choose a different provider. </VIC-20-MODE> Furthermore in the U.S.A. they have the democratic right to freedom of association. If they don't want to associate (do business with or communicate) with spammers, net-kooks or anyone else for that matter it is their right not to do so. Your right to free speech ends at the private property line/perimeter routers of their network. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Bob Allisat Sent: Saturday, November 21, 1998 7:00 AM To: Lawrence A. Deleski Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: ORBS: Another Vigilante Group Larry writes:
You are wrong, these people *are* elected. They are elected by the millions of users who do not want spam. The answer is simple but for some reason you refuse to see it. I would gladly grant all necessary authority to my ISP to act in any way that benefits me and my wishes.
Nonsense. Democratic forums are open, transparent, accountable, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.5 for non-commercial use <http://www.nai.com> Comment: All Spammers Are Thieves - Jail Them Now iQA/AwUBNldNKzAufbtGOmgdEQLe6QCcCTHi0T5EeJsroj5lc9KUU+HjRKoAn2Xn 2u66+AYsT0LXx5YMLcxGj0no =DRN7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----