There is a simple solution for redundancy - buy redundant T-1 lines, run BGP, route a large enough block of space to be globally routable. This is like complaining that you can only get a Yugo for $8K instead of a Porche. You want the Porche, pay the cash. You want to spend $50 a month for DSL, live with the limitations of the technology and the product offering. Providers can't afford to provide DSL for the current $$$, with the present services. T-1's are cheap these days, compared to a few years back. - Daniel Golding
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Christopher A. Woodfield Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:23 PM To: Roeland Meyer Cc: 'Steve Sobol'; Steve Schaefer; jmarr@twmaine.com; hunter@compuhelp.com; jpayne@sackheads.org; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: The DSL business model
Not to mention that if you're looking to do BGP, most providers won't think of letting you run BGP over anything that's not at least a T1. When I was at Intermedia, we didn't even let customer do BGP over frame relay - they had to have a fractional T1 service at minimum.
-C
The technology that can be faulted, and I sincerely apologize for not being clear enough on this, is that which prevents adequate redundancy at the end-nodes. The fact that 100,000 businesses can get lopped off by a single provider business failure is pretty sad. I've tried, for over a year, to get redundant uplinks to an alternate provider (ISDN backup to xDSL). CIDR, prefix filtering, and cluelessness nail that effort every time. It doesn't seem to matter that I am more than willing to pay for it. It simply isn't available. But, it should be (I don't mean tinker-toy methods either). Before CIDR, it was. The past few quarters has shown how necessary it is. Guys, this is a huge market gap, why isn't anyone filling it?
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