Well, UUnet does terminate T3s into the Cascades. One of our T3s happens to go to UUnet and it is into one of their Cascades at PAIX. It is currently only a fraction circuit. From talking with their installer, they only plug you directly into one of their routers if the circuit is 15mb or higher. We have had this circuit for 9 months now and everything seems to be working great with it. Later, Chris -----Original Message----- From: Deepak Jain [mailto:deepak@ai.net] Sent: Monday, September 21, 1998 3:01 PM To: Jerry Scharf Cc: bjames@mis.net; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Frame Relay encap vis-a-vis point-to-point at UUNET I have never heard complaints about the Cascades for T-1 termination except where they are terminating too many sessions in the Cascades and the router couldn't handle that many sessions. This was a bigger problem before the 7500 series routers came out and more importantly the RSP4s. Fortunately UUNet doesn't terminate T3s into Cascades or ATM switches (yet...) -Deepak.