In fact, SRonan, the real risk of such a standard is that people would use it to send an increasingly massive flood of pointless abuse reports, which would require deployment of an equally massive AI-based data analytics to cull the flood, which would then be Skynet :) -mel beckman
On Apr 29, 2020, at 8:40 AM, mel@beckman.org wrote:
SRonan,
If only such a standard were feasible :)
-mel beckman
On Apr 29, 2020, at 8:25 AM, "sronan@ronan-online.com" <sronan@ronan-online.com> wrote:
Perhaps some organization of Network Operators should come up with an objective standard of what constitutes “abuse” and a standard format for reporting it.
If only there was such an organization.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 29, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Chris Adams <cma@cmadams.net> wrote:
Once upon a time, Mukund Sivaraman <muks@mukund.org> said:
If an abuse report is incorrect, then it is fair to complain.
The thing is: are 3 failed SSH logins from an IP legitimately "abuse"?
I've typoed IP/FQDN before and gotten an SSH response, and taken several tries before I realized my error. Did I actually "abuse" someone's server? I didn't get in, and it's hard to say that the server resources I used with a few failed tries were anything more than negligible.
I've had users tripped up by fail2ban because they were trying to access a server they don't use often and took several tries to get the password right or had the wrong SSH key. Should that have triggered an abuse email?
-- Chris Adams <cma@cmadams.net>