On 3/23/22 10:04 AM, Joe Maimon wrote:
Michael Thomas wrote:
On 3/22/22 10:34 PM, Joe Maimon wrote:
There is this other side: I'm dualstack, and I simply dont notice.
Being in transition state indefinitely is not success.
The other side is when you are v6 only and you dont notice. We arent there yet. Thats the failure.
This is a terrible way to look at things. SIP has been gradually been taking over the PSTN signaling for 20 years. It has not rooted out every SS7 installation on the planet and probably won't until I'm long dead. Is that a failure? It's certainly a "transition state". After not paying attention for probably a decade and seeing how much it's penetrated I'd call that a resounding success. The same is true of IPv6 with all of the mobile uptake. Legacy is hard. It always has been hard. Calling something a failure because it doesn't instantly defeat legacy a terrible take. It was always going to be difficult to add address space to IP regardless of how it was done. All of the bagging on IPv6 and imagining a better ipng ignores that basic fact.
Mike
SIP wasnt formulated to save telephony. In fact sip has nearly 100% adoption for ip based telephony. It did displace legacy and proprietary protocols.
There is no comparison. IPv6 transition was intended to complete before run out using Dual Stack. Fail.
SIP won't displace all legacy PSTN any time soon. So it's a failure by your definition. And by your definition IPv6 was a failure before it was even born because the internet became popular -- something I'll add that nobody knew for certain when it was being designed. There's a lot of sour grapes about stuff that happened 30 years ago. Mike