<RANT level=MINOR> Ya know, this is the problem with this kind of list groupthink. Who cares what his motivations are unless he asks for help with that underlying problem? Do you (plural, whoever is replying) know the answer to his question or where to find the answer or not? It seems like every technical list is over-run with meta-conversations, how do I (blah), WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO (blah)?!?! Often in a sort of accusatory tone, only someone dumb would want to (blah)! I think the answer is to disable IPv6 in the web server config or startup (see flags) but hey I just thought I would meta the meta. Sorry but I went through about an hour of looking for some way to trace systemd and all I found on various lists in answer to others asking the same thing was why would you want to trace systemd? Is this a standard package causing problems if not then use the standard package and if there is none then don't use that software (wow what a good answer...not), or a lot of "it must just be something simple you don't need to trace anything" (which was probably true but kind of useless.) </RANT> -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*