At the recent Cheyenne Mountain Conference (http://www.farnet.org/cheyenne/), the invited guest speaker, Dr. Ivan Moura Campos of Brazil's Science and Technology Ministry, showed a spiral starting at the origin and four labeled quadrants to illustrate a technology transfer development model (http://www.farnet.org/cheyenne/archive/campos.ppt). The basic idea is that governments might sponsor R&D (lower left quadrant), transfer it to working prototypes along with partners (lower right quadrant), then, following some restructuring, to operational status with parthers, and then to a commodity service (commercial acvceptance). The spiral continues through additional cycles. (My own further interpretation is that, just as the size of the spiral coontinues to grow with each revolution, the resources needed to execute successive cycles also continue to grow. When I saw Ivan at COMDEX-SP in São Paulo a few weeks ago, he agreed that this interpretation was fitting.) Internet II might be viewed in that light. It is not an exclusive development, but one that could be incubated in a pilot-like partnership setting and transferred to more general operational status as the kinks are worked out of the system (which, in itself might require a great leap of faith as in the case of most new developments). Internet II would not be "instead of Internet," but, to the degree that it can find workable solutions to vexing Internet problems, as an adjunct to Internet. --Steve G.