For anyone who is not aware this Comcast issue does have a solutions and its called iptables. works great for those behind either the great firewall of china or the great firewall of Comcast. http://redhatcat.blogspot.com/2007/09/beating-sandvine-with-linux-iptables.h tml Clinton Popovich Systems Administrator Nauticom Internet Services - An NPSI Company 2591 Wexford-Bayne Road, Suite 400 Sewickley, PA 15143 Tel: 724-933-9540 Fax: 724-933-9888 Email: crpopovi@nauticom.net Web: <http://www.nauticom.net/> http://www.nauticom.net From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Owen Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:01 PM To: Mike Lewinski Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads On 10/19/07, Mike Lewinski <mike@rockynet.com> wrote: With the remaining 1% being Linux ISOs. I wonder what happens to these network police appliances (Sandvine, Packeteer etc) when the P2Ps implement encryption and tunnel it all over 443/tcp? They'll just monitor for streams that utilize large portions of bandwidth for extended amounts of time and throttle all. -- Mark Owen