On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 11:58:34AM +1000, Matthew Sullivan wrote:
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 05:02:47PM -0400, Todd Vierling wrote:
If the point of the technology is to add a degree of anonymity, you can be pretty sure that a marker expressly designed to state the message "Hi, I'm anonymous!" will never be a standard feature of said technology. That's a pretty obvious non-starter.
Which begs the original question of this thread which I started: with that said, how exactly does one filter this technology?
Of course SORBS' position is actually this - if you are allowing Trojan traffic over the Tor network you will get listed (regardless of whether the Trojans can talk to port 25 or not)....
How an open proxy that will not connect to port 25 is relevant for an *email* blacklist is beyond me.
...and for what it's worth, I have no problems with anonymous networks for idealistic reasons, however they are always abused, they will continue to be abused, Tor is being abused, and I should be able to allow or deny traffic into my networks as I see fit....
All of my discussions with Tor people have indicated [they] do not think I should have the right to deny traffic based on IP address, and that I should find other methods of authenticating traffic into my networks.
Isn't it rather that they think that filtering on the base of IP address is broken in today's Internet, even if tor didn't exist? Open proxies, trojans, multi-user computers, dynamic IPs, ... all this makes that substituting IP address for people is very, very, imprecise. -- Lionel