And its not the last time the big Tier(s) will refuse to do anything beside dropping the fault to the CPE vendors. People love circles. ----- Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 10/24/16 14:12, Alexander Lyamin wrote:
Its not a first time we have and large scale DDoS incident. Its not a first time we have (a kind of) knee-jerk reaction.
I think its a right time to direct community attention to this document
https://www.routingmanifesto.org/manrs/
It's work in progress. But its a good start.
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> wrote:
I cannot give additional info other than what’s been on “public media”.
However, I would very much like to say that this is a horrific trend on the Internet. The idea that someone can mention a DDoS then get DDoS’ed Can Not Stand. See Krebs’ on the Democratization of Censorship. See lots of other things.
To Dyn and everyone else being attacked: The community is behind you. There are problems, but if we stick together, we can beat these miscreants.
To the miscreants: You will not succeed. Search "churchill on the beaches”. It’s a bit melodramatic, but it’s how I feel at this moment.
To the rest of the community: If you can help, please do. I know a lot of you are thinking “what can I do?" There is a lot you can do. BCP38 & BCP84 instantly come to mind. Sure, that doesn’t help Mirai, but it still helps. There are many other things you can do as well.
But a lot of it is just willingness to help. When someone asks you to help trace an attack, do not let the request sit for a while. Damage is being done. Help your neighbor. When someone’s house is burning, your current project, your lunch break, whatever else you are doing is almost certainly less important. If we stick together and help each other, we can - we WILL - win this war. If we are apathetic, we have already lost.
OK, enough motivational speaking for today. But take this to heart. Our biggest problem is people thinking they cannot or do not want to help.
-- TTFN, patrick
On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann@gmail.com> wrote: Does anyone have any additional details? Seems to be over now, but I'm very curious about the specifics of such a highly impactful attack (and it's timing following NANOG 68)...
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/ddos-on-dyn-impacts- twitter-spotify-reddit/ -- @ChrisGrundemann http://chrisgrundemann.com