Hi,
As my Avaya CNA/Route Science box begins to seriously age, and without
The ability to manage bandwidth over multiple ISP links each of which may charge variable rates per Mb, and also be billed by the 95th percentile billing method, is the main justification for a device like the Routescience product. In my experience ROI is captured in a relatively short time. Since Routescience uses the second and third packets of the TCP 3-way handshake to calculate the fastest route to destination prefixes, then this is an added bonus to the ability to dial bandwidth up or down over numerous ISP links. Also Routescience-type devices free up the person who sits and calculates BGP best routes manually, so that person can perform more productive and efficient work in other areas. -----Original Message----- From: Rubens Kuhl [mailto:rubensk@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 11:23 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Competition for Internap's FCP product. Is your burstable bandwidth cost high enough to pay 100K for a gear just to meet the commitments ? NAGIOS/CACTI monitoring alerts sent to someone (which may be hired help from any place in the world) would probably beat that in cost effectiveness. The performance requirement is where a line is drawn between manual configuration and automated BGP manipulation. Rubens On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Drew Weaver <drew.weaver@thenap.com> wrote: the support of Avaya for 'Service Provider' uses of the product, I have been looking for alternatives to the product.
The value we get from this product is mainly in the ability to easily
manage our bandwidth commitments in a hands off way without having to manually manipulate anything. I have no real illusions that the 'performance' side of things is 'arguable' at best with these sorts of products due to the nature of the Internet.
Internap to me stands out as essentially the only alternative to this
product, but they have been tremendously difficult to work with, they won't allow us to demo a unit to see if it offers the same functionality as our current solution. The reason they won't allow us to a demo a unit is because they 'don't stock them'. So basically they have 0 units until someone orders one, that is fine if that is their policy but that hasn't really been our experience with other hardware vendors that want close to 100K for a piece of niche equipment.
My questions are:
-What are other people doing who currently use or used the Avaya/RS
product in the past?
-Does anyone know of any competition in this space (aside from hiring a guy that sits there and does this for us manually)? -Has Cisco's OER/PFR made any progress in the last few years (is anyone using it?)
Sorry to disturb,
-Drew