Emil, You have a lot of loyal legit customers. What's your plans? Seems like your taking action against the bad clients which is great. Where does this leave Intercage? You seeking alternative routes currently? Offering refunds to those loyal clients? James -----Original Message----- From: Emil Kacperski [mailto:emilkacp@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 3:20 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Hello, It's true that David from PIE disconnected our link approx 9pm or so yesterday. Things were going perfect, no complaints for a few weeks now. The only thing I believe is that NTT gave lots of pressure to PIE. For some unknown reason when I tried to reach out to the security guy at NTT he basically said our contract is with PIE. So in a time like this you really get to know who your friends are and who should be avoided. Onward and upward! What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger ;-). Just feel bad for the customers for which I am truly sorry for right now ;-(. Thanks! Contact: Emil Kacperski Company: Intercage Inc. - Atrivo Dedicated Servers San Francisco Datacenter E-Mail: emil@intercage.com Phone: 925-550-3947 ICQ: 23531098