Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
Okay, so I've been reading this thread on L3, and I'm a little curious as to what this potential de-peering means in one unique situation.
I means, here in germany we cannot see h.root-servers.net soa(".","2005102201","a.root-servers.net","198.41.0.4"). soa(".","2005102201","b.root-servers.net","192.228.79.201"). soa(".","2005102201","c.root-servers.net","192.33.4.12"). soa(".","2005102201","d.root-servers.net","128.8.10.90"). soa(".","2005102201","e.root-servers.net","192.203.230.10"). soa(".","2005102201","f.root-servers.net","192.5.5.241"). soa(".","2005102201","g.root-servers.net","192.112.36.4"). error(".","h.root-servers.net","128.63.2.53","no response"). soa(".","2005102201","i.root-servers.net","192.36.148.17"). soa(".","2005102201","j.root-servers.net","192.58.128.30"). soa(".","2005102201","l.root-servers.net","198.32.64.12"). soa(".","2005102201","l.root-servers.net","198.32.64.12"). soa(".","2005102201","m.root-servers.net","202.12.27.33"). Ok, it is only one of the root servers. But have a look who h.root-servers.net is. It is one of the originals not an anycasted copy. Maybe it is only dtag.de the uplink of my ISP but they are the uplink of mostly any ISP here in germany. I guess half of the world cannot reach your site and they cannot even send you an email to tell you. Here is my traceroute to h.root-servers.net right now: 2005-10-23 (296) 11:48:46 loc 2005-10-23 (296) 09:48:46 UTC traceroute to h.root-servers.net (128.63.2.53), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 echnaton.lomiheim (192.168.48.228) 4.675 ms 5.587 ms 6.364 ms 2 DARX41-erx (217.0.116.49) 116.568 ms 132.257 ms 137.536 ms 3 sepia (217.0.67.106) 119.249 ms 124.106 ms 134.971 ms 4 62.156.131.150 230.077 ms 233.444 ms 237.907 ms 5 sl-gw31-nyc-12-0.sprintlink.net (144.223.27.133) 248.150 ms 254.276 ms 262.928 ms 6 sl-bb23-nyc-12-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.13.33) 271.683 ms 278.948 ms 286.979 ms 7 sl-bb20-nyc-8-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.7.13) 288.615 ms 296.159 ms 304.545 ms 8 0.so-2-3-0.BR1.NYC4.ALTER.NET (204.255.174.225) 153.352 ms 160.090 ms 168.617 ms 9 0.so-6-0-0.XL1.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.78) 177.012 ms * 184.325 ms 10 0.so-7-0-0.XL1.CHI2.ALTER.NET (152.63.68.81) 202.066 ms 205.084 ms 207.531 ms 11 POS6-0.GW10.CHI2.ALTER.NET (152.63.69.169) 214.184 ms 221.166 ms 228.862 ms 12 0.so-3-3-0.dng.dren.net (65.195.244.54) 323.133 ms * 325.671 ms 13 so12-0-0-0.arlapg.dren.net (138.18.1.3) 373.705 ms 381.351 ms 393.036 ms 14 * * * ; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> . @h.root-servers.net ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
A friend of mine has got a colo box sitting, single-homed, in a (3) data center. At the end of this, is this going to mean I can't reach Cogent? I've seen something in the discussions that imply this will be the case, but am not ultimately sure.
Then again, is anyone?
I am shure I cannot reach h-root-servers.net and a lot of other sites. Here is what I see from another host in the netherlands: traceroute to h.root-servers.net (128.63.2.53), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 Bifroest (84.22.100.1) 0.181 ms 0.156 ms 0.155 ms 2 Charybdis (84.22.96.245) 2.016 ms 3.895 ms 3.545 ms 3 217.195.244.142 104.799 ms 103.670 ms 102.902 ms 4 213.201.252.230 103.338 ms 101.735 ms 100.100 ms 5 ge0-0-0-1.gr0.tcams.nl.easynet.net (207.162.205.113) 98.449 ms 96.802 ms 95.168 ms 6 so0-1-0-0.gr0.tclon.uk.easynet.net (207.162.205.49) 101.366 ms 100.190 ms 98.656 ms 7 ge0-3-0-0.gr1.thlon.uk.easynet.net (207.162.205.21) 96.926 ms 95.480 ms 93.871 ms 8 ge0-0-0-0.gr0.thlon.uk.easynet.net (207.162.198.12) 92.276 ms 90.543 ms * 9 ge0-2-0-0.gr0.bllon.uk.easynet.net (207.162.205.13) 22.415 ms 21.672 ms 20.266 ms 10 br0.bllon.uk.easynet.net (207.162.204.5) 21.576 ms 20.171 ms 23.452 ms 11 ge-1-0-0-0.br0.tclon.uk.easynet.net (82.108.6.122) 21.855 ms 20.237 ms 21.863 ms 12 ge0-0-0-0.br0.thlon.uk.easynet.net (195.172.211.205) 20.422 ms 23.193 ms 21.581 ms 13 ip-217-204-60-90.easynet.co.uk (217.204.60.90) 20.976 ms 20.646 ms 20.409 ms 14 ge-5-0-2.402.ar2.LON3.gblx.net (67.17.212.93) 90.475 ms 89.058 ms 87.318 ms 15 so6-0-0-2488M.ar2.NYC1.gblx.net (67.17.64.158) 97.484 ms 110.351 ms 108.752 ms 16 POS1-0.BR3.NYC8.ALTER.NET (204.255.168.133) 107.855 ms POS1-1.BR3.NYC8.ALTER.NET (204.255.168.61) 106.842 ms 118.576 ms 17 0.so-5-2-0.XL1.NYC8.ALTER.NET (152.63.19.54) 118.120 ms 116.336 ms 114.644 ms 18 0.so-7-0-0.XL1.CHI2.ALTER.NET (152.63.68.81) 137.482 ms 135.923 ms 134.144 ms 19 POS6-0.GW10.CHI2.ALTER.NET (152.63.69.169) 132.387 ms 130.567 ms 129.078 ms 20 0.so-3-3-0.dng.dren.net (65.195.244.54) 116.936 ms 116.027 ms 114.271 ms 21 so12-0-0-0.arlapg.dren.net (138.18.1.3) 126.768 ms 125.046 ms 126.627 ms 22 cperouter.arlapg.dren.net (138.18.21.2) 126.067 ms 124.259 ms 127.054 ms 23 * * * ; <<>> DiG 9.2.4 <<>> . @h.root-servers.net ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 202 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;. IN A ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: . 86400 IN SOA a.root-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com.\ 2005102201 1800 900 604800 86400 ;; Query time: 128 msec ;; SERVER: 128.63.2.53#53(h.root-servers.net) ;; WHEN: Sun Oct 23 11:56:48 2005 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 92
Thanks,
-Dan
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