I take issue with what you folks think is relative. It's _clearly_ unbalanced, unfair, and biased. I'm in the process of turning back up a major portion of the state network over the next couple of days hete in texas, and reports of network status is somehow not on-topic? I'm thinking that NANOG is just completely FUBAR'd... You guys can have your boys club. As for the rest of the readership, I'm Sorry you are ending up with a mailing list that is ruled by a select few, who have decided that they wish to control the content of "operations". What a damned shame. Good bye, - ferg -- Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote: paul, begging the point of whether news about telco, not internet, circuits and wireless is ot for nanog, i think all martin was asking is a subject: tag for for your news posts, as he seems to have a brain-dead mua (which is highly popular for some reason) with very limited filtering capabilities. i don't think he meant it as a personal attack; i assume you would know one if he did:-). randy -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/