http://blog.erratasec.com/2015/01/obams-war-on-hackers.html Therefore, immediate end of this thread? Are all subscribers to this list now to be inconvenienced at airports? (Sorry, my bad.) Do we all need a CCNP Security-multipass to log into IRC now? Which channels are now a good idea to avoid? #linux? #bitcoin? #nanog? #obamasucks? #blacklivesmatter? (in Canada #idlenomore is similar and equally targetted by Palantir/Tempests as the latter was). What constitutes racketeering in 'communication'? Membership on a mailing list or just reading a webpage? [ This week I was investigating a colleague's website, so I ran dig(1) in a bash terminal in putty - she saw a text terminal, and exclaimed "Wait, stop, are you hacking my website?!" I blame Sandra Bullock and to a lesser extent Carrie Ann Moss (and the nmap crew, esp. for using actually-plausible toolsets/techniques). ] This is an age old game, but the ante has just been upped. Our industry should respond to this. /kc -- Ken Chase - math@sizone.org Toronto Canada