At 06:51 PM 11/8/98 -0500, Kim Hubbard wrote:
At 06:53 AM 11/6/98 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
Why should ARIN be able to put someone's business model into the trash can because of technical complience issues?
The same way that Auto Insurance companies can revoke your license in California. They simply revoke you insurance policy after you gather 3 point agaisnt you driving record. According to CA-DMV, you license immediately becomes suspended for lack of insurance. Notice that the legal suspension limit is more than 6 points. However, the over-arching requirement is liability insurance. Thus, placing the control with the insurance companies (hell, I never said I *liked* living here).
ARIN seems to be operating on a similar principle as the DMV.
I don't recall ARIN ever revoking or suspending addresses. I'd be interested in any examples where ARIN has done this or are you just making assumptions here?
I was speaking of the suspension of a business license by not allowing IP assignments. The requirement to present a business plan is the issue here. I was also not making any accusations, I was answering Karl's question. I was trying to answer how the requirements of one agency pre-empts another's, more liberal, requirements. In this case, how the more restrictive requirements, of ARIN IP allocations, pre-empts the business requirements of various incorporation regulations. Some of this may actuially be improper, as in the case of the DMV vs the Auto-insurance carriers, where the carrier has a stricter standard than is maintained by the regulatory agency. Unfortunately, it is not illegal, yet. In the DMV/Insurance case, there is actually grounds within public liability statutes. It still doesn't condone the stricter standards of the Insurance carriers, IMHO. ARIN, is facing a similar issue, on murkier grounds. This was my only point to this, my answer to Karl. Yes, I believe it is improper. No private company should be allowed to pre-empt *any* regulatory agency, with stricter standards. Were ARIN to be a regulatory agency then the argument becomes one of jurisdiction. Since it is not, then ARIN has less legal footing on which to base this policy, IMHO. ___________________________________________________ Roeland M.J. Meyer, ISOC (InterNIC RM993) e-mail: <mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com>rmeyer@mhsc.com Internet phone: hawk.mhsc.com Personal web pages: <http://www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer>www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer Company web-site: <http://www.mhsc.com/>www.mhsc.com/ ___________________________________________ I bet the human brain is a kludge. -- Marvin Minsky