On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 03:48:57PM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote: but it doesn't matter: Again folks: Two things will cut 99.44% of the smurf: Get as many net-ops as you can to 1) turn no ip-directed broadcast (if they have a knob (or bitch long and loud)) and 2) filter outbound packets with forged source addresses (or bitch long and loud if you don't have a knob). It's said that a problem changes in type when it chanegs _enough_ in magnitude. I suspect that it won't be another 12 months before a router with both those knobs is _required_ to meet the (new version of the) Router Requirements RFC, much less to actually _get_ a connection. If you can't filter the appropriate stuff, get the hell off _my_ Internet. :-) Cheers, -- jr 'wanna see the Bill of Sale? ;-)' a -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Two words: Darth Doogie." -- Jason Colby, Tampa Bay, Florida on alt.fan.heinlein +1 813 790 7592 Managing Editor, Top Of The Key sports e-zine ------------ http://www.totk.com