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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

From: "Bryan Holloway" <bryan@shout.net>
To: "William Herrin" <bill@herrin.us>
Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:18:03 AM
Subject: Re: Hosting recommendations ... ?

Perhaps I'm missing something, but in your #1 example "Cloud", what
prevents me from running a Proxmox ISO (which is more or less Debian)
vs. a "standard" Debian install on the provider's virtual server?

If I can, I've succeeded. That is the sort of hosting provider I'm
looking for, if they exist.

#2 would be suitable, but it seems to be that if leased bare-metal dies,
it will be some time for ETR. Less desirable, but I'm open to ideas.

#3 I do now. Trying to move away from that.


On 1/19/21 5:44 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:31 AM Bryan Holloway <bryan@shout.net> wrote:
>> I would like to stop personally dealing with bare-metal. That's what I'm
>> doing now.
>
> Hi Bryan,
>
> Cloud = you get virtual servers with virtual storage, generally
> adjustable to meet your needs. You manage the operating systems and
> storage within the virtual environment. You DO NOT manage the host
> operating systems or hypervisors.
>
> Bare metal = you lease physical equipment. You manage all software on
> the equipment including any hypervisors needed to run virtual servers.
> You DO NOT deal with hardware break/fix, that problem belongs to the
> service provider.
>
> Colocation = You lease space in a data center. You provide physical
> equipment in your custom configuration.
>
> With this terminology, at least one of your requirements is unmeetable
> for contradicting the others. So I ask again for clarification: which
> of these do you seek?
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>