At this last NANOG, it seemed that the geometry, rather than just the size, of the hotel made covering even a small portion of rooms extremely difficult. The bar coverage was certainly nice. Interestingly, the Merit folks had far more wireless access points than they actually used at this last NANOG. The biggest problem was getting wired connectivity to all the places that access points were needed. The Sheraton was a very old hotel with primitive wiring. This may be easier at hotels of more recent vintage. Which may be a lesson learned for future hosts. - Daniel Golding -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Jared Mauch Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 7:08 PM To: Thomas Kernen Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Next NANOG Also, it would be nice if the hotel had ethernet in the rooms (in-house DSL or whatnot) or wireless sufficent to cover the hotel. If the conference moves to larger and larger hotels the wireless covering the whole hotel isn't as possible. The IETF-49 density of access points was quite nice - Jared On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 07:26:40PM -0400, Thomas Kernen wrote:
As long as they keep providing power sockets in the rooms for those of us
battery.
Thomas
Merit actually has enough access points (it really only takes 4-6 of them... it's more of a user mindshare issue... hence the continuing availability of laptop drops... note however that there are fewer at the recent meeting (ie. we had almost 300 for one room at nanog 17).
the cisco folks used about 24 access points(overkill) for the ietf in sandiego that was enough to blanket the conference center and the hotel below the 3rd floor...
joelja
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Alex wrote:
I'd rather see NANOG/MERIT invest in like 15 or 20 base stations,
rather
than wasting the time/money on the cat5 cable and switches -- etc.
A wireless card costs all of $200 these days... everyone could just get one.
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Joe Abley wrote:
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 08:23:19AM -0800, Lucy E. Lynch wrote:
Our big costs were US West curcuits into the hotel (6xT1 - we
could have
gotten away with 4xT1) and cable - we had lenghts cut to fit the
layout in the ballroom. We had switches & such on hand, and we "borrowed" terminal room machines from one of the student labs -
If these costs were negligible, how much would it have cost?
(assuming, for example, an 802.11b shot from a hotel to an already- connected nearby building, donated transit,
we actually tried to do a wireless run as a backup plan, but couldn't find an open conduit, and the hotel balked at the thought of our wiring guys coring 11 floors in order to get to the roof...
I don't think nanog is quite ready to go wireless only in the meeting room although cutting down on the wired infrastructure deployed is something that's been worked on...
doing wireless-only in the conference and having some friendly vendor loan the machines for
who have laptops that can't survive 4 hours straight on table the
terminal room).
Joe
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