True. I forget carrier space often, these days. Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services [[MERLIN LOGO]]<https://www.merlin.mb.ca/> 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8 (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) athompson@merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca> www.merlin.mb.ca<http://www.merlin.mb.ca/> From: Saku Ytti <saku@ytti.fi> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 2:34 PM To: Adam Thompson <athompson@merlin.mb.ca> Cc: Drew Weaver <drew.weaver@thenap.com>; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: 1G/10G BaseT switch recommendation On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 22:32, Adam Thompson <athompson@merlin.mb.ca<mailto:athompson@merlin.mb.ca>> wrote If you've already looked at Cisco, Juniper, Extreme, Juniper, and Arista, that's the big ones. Everything else is increasingly niche vendors. Extreme is a mom and pop shop compared to Nokia and Huawei, and I guess quite selection of names. -- ++ytti