Well. Since when SNMP, NTP or DNS are vulnerable? They both follow to the appropriate RFC's, contrary to all those AS + /24 that keep allowing spoofing source IP address. The victims of attacks could get the Tiers to follow back the source of the attack instead, but the corporations involved have more money than the small guy you'll bash for having the balls of running a resolver for his roaming customers. This false debate will never end... ----- Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net Fax: 514-990-9443 On 02/22/14 16:09, Jimmy Hess wrote:
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> wrote:
Perhaps you would rather publish a blacklist of "/24s containing NTP servers open to MONLIST" over UDP port 123 similar to the bogon feeds.
And encourage all networks to blackhole the list.
That way potential NTP reflection abuse traffic gets stuffed as close to the source as possible.
It's never appropriate to respond to abuse with abuse. Not only is it questionable/unprofessional behavior, but -- as we've seen -- there is a high risk that it'll exacerbate the problem, often by targeting innocent third parties.
I understand the frustration but this is not the way.
---rsk -- -JH