So I have to ask you the big question... Why do you want to do BGP with Comcast or Verizon ? (Over FIOS or Cable ?) Is the intent to Peer with their network ? (which they will rightfully only allow on bigger fatter connections).. or Are you trying to delivery your IP's to a End Customer behind that FIOS / Cable Connection ? ... (there a ways to accomplish this without needing their cooperation..) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet& Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: Support@Snappydsl.net On 3/13/2012 8:06 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Justin M. Streiner <streiner@cluebyfour.org> wrote:
All:
I realize this might be a bit of a fool's errand, but I'm trying to determine if Verizon will speak BGP with FiOS business customers. Their website is relatively lean on details. Everything that mentions BGP points to VZB services, which does not appear to include FiOS. Looking at the routing table, I do see several non-VZ ASNs downstream of AS19262, so it looks like it might be possible.
If that is the case, could anyone lend any insight to get past the "what is BGP?" response that likely awaits from their salescritters? So.... techsupport folks aside.. the product they sell is:
A) DHCP only, single address, dynamic B) Single Static address (uplift of 25$/month I believe?) C) 5 ips STATICALLY ROUTED AS /32's!! (WTF??) for 25$ above the option-B above/month.
You can't bring your own space You can't do BGP You can get more than 5 ips (in 5 ip chunks I believe) for 25$/month per chunk...
ip address rental, welcome to 1999!
Also, I know that on 701 the rate of BGP to non-BGP customers was increasing and was at ~30% or so as of ~2007... You'd think that 19262 would see that, see the business opportunity and offer it? Though, I suppose they DO see the business opportunity: "You want bgp? you want to bring your own ips? you want more than a DHCP address? Pay up, a lot."
weee! fun times! At some point there was fairly serious talk of moving the FIOS product into the last-mile offering for 701 customers as well, guess that didn't happen? :( Seems, to me at least, like the PON technology would be a win/win for large ISP customers... easy upgrade paths (dial-on-demand-bandwidth almost?) and simple CPE deployments: "Ethernet? sure it's available!"
-chris