On Aug 13, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Dan White wrote:
On 13/08/10 21:04 -0000, John Levine wrote:
I've tried to deal with that a few times - mainly by writing up the first upstream AS. Usually they don't care (and every time I have noticed someone blatantly stealing space, it's been spammers).
Has there ever been a case where ARIN has tried to take a block back from a party to whom they had allocated it and doesn't want to give it back? My impression is that stolen space is all swamp or legacy or abandoned, but I really don't know.
In case it's not obvious, I'm not advocating that people thumb their noses at ARIN, but I don't see any obvious way to avoid my scenario.
Make a public example of the situation. Assign such a block to an ARIN member with extensive legal resources who's willing to send some nasty letters out, and back it up with court action to establish legal precedence.
Or ARIN could do so itself on the grounds of breach of contract.
Of course, said block should clearly fall within ARIN's domain, backed up with a signed contract from the original party.
Yes, we have returns, revocations, and reclamations occurring routinely. They're covered in the same Toronto Registration services report that I referenced earlier on page 5. <https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_XXV/PDF/Wednesday/Nobile_RSD.pdf> /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN