On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 03:02:35AM +0200, Rafi Sadowsky wrote:
Seems your network(cluenet.de) finds sending traffic that way attractive
Otherwise why does traffic from Israel(via Italy) to your website in Germany go via C&W in the USA ?
You mix up two things. A technical discussion (what the thread is about) and a commercial/policy/politics discussion (that's what you're trying to make up here... or are you just baiting?). Then again, you also mix up direction of traffic. Traceroute from here to you doesn't go via the US: traceroute to 128.139.216.1 (128.139.216.1): 1-30 hops, 38 byte packets 1 fe5-1-r10-MUC1.de.cw.net (62.208.181.1) 0.685/0.997/1.27 (0.240) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 2 ge9-0-bb1-MUC1.de.cw.net (62.208.225.20) 0.434/0.616/0.760 (0.135) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 3 ge-0-1-0-arj2-MUC1.de.cw.net (62.208.225.16) 0.528/0.694/0.811 (0.120) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 4 zcr1-ge-4-1-0.Munich.cw.net (208.175.230.21) 0.514/0.680/0.803 (0.121) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 5 zcr2-ge-4-3-0-5.Munich.cw.net (208.175.230.254) 7.94/7.99/8.01 (0.031) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 6 bcr2-so-3-0-0.Frankfurt.cw.net (166.63.193.209) 7.68/7.85/7.95 (0.120) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 7 bcr1.Paris.cw.net (208.172.250.61) 16.6/16.6/16.6 (0.021) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 8 cable-and-wireless-peering.Paris.cw.net (208.172.251.182) 16.5/16.5/16.6 (0.051) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 9 prs-bb1-pos0-3-0.telia.net (213.248.70.1) 16.6/16.7/16.8 (0.106) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 10 ffm-bb1-pos2-1-0.telia.net (213.248.64.190) 16.6/16.7/16.8 (0.083) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 11 ffm-new-b2-pos2-1.telia.net (213.248.64.174) 16.7/16.8/17.0 (0.118) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 12 dante-01232-ffm-new-b2.c.telia.net (213.248.77.90) 107/107/107 (0.027) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 13 de1-1.de2.de.geant.net (62.40.96.130) 107/107/107 (0.038) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 14 de.it1.it.geant.net (62.40.96.62) 116/116/117 (0.424) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 15 it.il1.il.geant.net (62.40.96.153) 168/168/168 (0.092) ms 3/3 pkts (0% loss) 16 62.40.103.226 (62.40.103.226) * * 169/169/169 (0.000) ms 1/3 pkts (67% loss) Not perfect (Frankfurt->Paris->Frankfurt), but stays in EU (before going to .il). So you should probably discuss your route to me with your uplink if you're unhappy with the path it takes. Please follow up via private mail if you really desire, but keep this debate off NANOG, thanks. Regards, Daniel