OK, not really "in the core", but the subject made you look at least. :) I'm interested in people's experiences with consumer-grade routers functioning in non-NAT mode; that is to say, running PPPoE to the ISP and routing a /29 or a /28. A sane filtering language and stateful firewall that can operate in non-NAT mode is a plus. My experiences with Linksys (and Netscreen, which isn't really at the price point I wanted anyway) have caused me to rip out substantial amounts of my already insufficient hair. "Cisco 1700 series" or "Cisco 2600XM" would be nice answers if their price had the decimal point moved one place to the left. Linux or other non-vendor-supplied firmware, while cool, represents an unacceptable support load for my application. Any thoughts? ---Rob