J. Hellenthal, thank you for your reply. I am not in marketing. I represent a team of talented network engineers, some of which are persons of color and under-represented minorities. I believe we, as a community, can do better to effect change, and hold each other accountable to this end. It is a worthy discussion for NANOG to have, particularly as an industry that has struggled in the areas of diversity and inclusion. This may be a great starting point for you on your journey: https://www.nanog.org/stories/our-commitment-diversity-and-inclusion/ https://www.nanog.org/about/code-conduct/ To the OP - I express my appreciation for acknowledging and adjusting the language used in your survey. Regards, - Ryan (past NANOG Program Committee Member) On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 1:08 PM J. Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net> wrote:
Guess we all better start rewriting all of the documentation out there because some PC marketing snowflake wants to get extra brownie points and attention for classifying a color in RGB into a racial divide for which it never originated.
blacklists are not always deny/block/disallow and conformed of things that allow you to take actions whatever your choosing upon their contents and your policies.
What’s next ? redlisting ? Don’t offend the Russians ... blue ? Don’t want to offend the police ...
Leave this crap off the list, it’s not helping anyone.
SMH
-- J. Hellenthal
The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Jun 16, 2020, at 13:27, Ryan Landry <ryan.landry@gmail.com> wrote:
In kind, I'd like to encourage the use of terms like permit/accept list or deny/block list.
Respectfully, -Ryan
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:33 AM Rachee Singh <rachee.singh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi NANOG community,
We are a group of researchers studying the use of IP blacklists as a mechanism to mitigate security threats -- particularly over the IPv6 Internet. We would like to understand if and how you use IP blacklists to secure your networks. Please consider taking our short survey: https://forms.gle/ZEsxyiBivJAfLF7e6
The survey will be anonymous unless you choose to identify yourself.
Thanks, Rachee UMass Amherst