DI> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:22:11 -0400 DI> From: Dave Israel DI> So you make end devices unaddressable by normal means, and while it DI> shouldn't give them more security, it turns out it does. No matter DI> how much it shouldn't, and how much we wish it didn't, it does. "Hey, this so-called 'DMZ' feature looks handy. Now I can run a server process... and I'm protected because I'm using a private address!" The security comes from state, full stop. Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita ________________________________________________________________________ DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: davidc@brics.com -*- jfconmaapaq@intc.net -*- sam@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter.