Well then Adam I would say the Dasan Zhone fits the budget. The M3000 seems like a real beast for the price point with 100G ports.Yes, other whitebox vendors are doing this, but they seem to want 2-4k for the whitebox, and even more for the operating system, making it more expensive that Juniper from what I have seen.On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 3:27 PM <adamv0025@netconsultings.com> wrote:Just to clarify what cheap means, ideally -$2000 to $4000 new
-new is preferred as buying used kit on second hand market one is at the mercy of the price fluctuations and availability.
And the likes of the M2400 looks good 4x10G plus some 1G, unfortunately there are no details on the webpage (and the datasheet can’t be downloaded… )
Are there more folks out there bundling open NOS and white-box HW along with the support for the whole thing?
adam
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+adamv0025=netconsultings.com@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Colton Conor
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:51 PM
To: tim@pelican.org
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations
I haven't tried one myself, but Dasan Zhone has the M2400 and M3000. Basically, a whitebox with IP Infusion code on it. New, I think the price point is sub $2000 to $4000 new. That's a ton of ports for that price point. Anyone tried these yet? https://dzsi.com/product-category/mobile-xhaul/
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 3:38 AM tim@pelican.org <tim@pelican.org> wrote:
On Saturday, 17 October, 2020 00:41, "Tony Wicks" <tony@wicks.co.nz> said:
> Well, there is always the MX104 (if you want redundancy) or MX80 if you
> don’t. That will give you 80gig wire speed just don’t load it up with
> more than one full table.
Bear in mind that the MX80 is now in the EoL process, you have <4 years of support left. Depending on your expected life-time / depreciation rules, buying one new right now might be unwise.
Do *not* throw a full table at it (or any of the PowerPC Junipers) unless you have a lot of patience for reconvergence, and black-holes while you wait.
MX104 is a nice box for getting dual-RE in something relatively compact and cheap, and has environmental hardening if that matters to you, but is still not best pleased with full tables.
OP could do with clarifying "cheap" :)
Regards,
Tim.