Greg A. Woods wrote:
[ On Friday, January 14, 2000 at 21:20:19 (-0800), Paul A Vixie wrote: ]
Subject: Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS Abovenet seems to be exercising their property rights over their own network. According to reports, they asked ORBS to stop running their SMTP port scanner on Abovenet's address space, and ORBS refused. Abovenet's only recourse was to block access to ORBS' probe host. And so, "I can't say as I blame them."
Ummm.... Something's wrong with that logic I think.
there's nothing wrong with that logic. i used to work for a little company here in Austin called MIDS. as sys/net admin on that network i fielded several requests from other networks to stop sending icmp echo requests to their network. we did this in an attempt to chart the "performance" of the Internet. you can argue about the validity of those measurements all you want. however, when we recieved a request to stop, we stopped. we then contacted the person who requested the halt, and explained to them what we were doing. if they understood and wished to continue to participate, we put them back in our lists. if they didn't want to participate, i thanked them and put them in a list of networks not to measure. it's called being a responsible netizen. it's just that simple. i would bet that if ORBS had taken a similar measure they could have worked out something with Abovenet. instead ORBS behaved in an "inappropriate" manner, and Abovenet took steps to ensure that unauthorized probes of their network were not allowed to reach their hosts. damon note: the only reason MIDS did not contact networks beforehand was because the time and manpower required were not available. -- Damon Conway Black Rock City Ranger...Riding the edge of chaos "Ana Ng and I are getting old, but we still haven't walked in the glow of each other's majestic presence." -- TMBG