In message <199810070318.XAA25961@ops.arin.net>, Kim Hubbard writes:
On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 07:56:59PM -0400, Kim Hubbard wrote:
Michael,
Could you define "legitimately multihomed" please?
... or any other high traffic site.
This would be a semi-justfiable use of a portable block less than a /19, would it not?
It would if it could be defined.
Speaking for myself (not ARIN or its members) I would say yes, however, it's easy to list examples of multi-homed but we would need to either list every acceptable example or state one definition that doesn't make ARIN's staff have to subjectively decide which organization is "legitimately" multi-homed. From my experience (not to mention ARIN's Advisory Council) this is more difficult than it seems.
Kim ARIN and others including the AC have struggled over what this definition is. Easily enough if we specify minimum bandwidth or cost associated with multihoming, but even this is not universially agreed on, and I'm positive that someone can poke holes in it and claim they need PI space even when they don't meet the qualifications. The simple problems have been solved. If it isn't fixed, it must be hard.
I'd say any organization with multiple 100mbps NAP/MAE connections interconnected at DS3 level obviously merits PI space(but no more than they can justify). As to how much space someone that is at one or two exchange points, and a couple of T-1s, people will argue about. Then what about 2 56k lines? (Some will claim you can't run two full BGP feeds off less than dual T1s, but I've done the tests to prove otherwise.). People also forget that there have been informal talks between sprint people and registry people about relaxing filters to match allocation policy. Frankly I don't see policy changing, unless people provide helpful feedback to the registries and advisory councils. And when providing feedback its important to be clear and to the point, a lot of these people are very busy and can't bother with personal attacks and flames. Its already to late to make the agenda for the Oct 15th AC meeting. --- Jeremy Porter, Freeside Communications, Inc. jerry@fc.net PO BOX 80315 Austin, Tx 78708 | 512-458-9810 http://www.fc.net